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Too much, too soon?

June 18th, 2011


Is the government taking on too many battles?

The impending public-sector strikes announced this week add just another front to the many battles the government’s facing. Ed Miliband raised an aspect of the welfare reforms at the last PMQ’s, the proposed changes to the NHS have been mired in difficulty for months, there’ve been the academies programme and tuition fees in education, and eliminating the deficit will have implications across virtually every aspect of government activity. On top of which, it’s got involved in a real battle over Libya and is still engaged in Afghanistan.

On a purely political front, the government’s given nearly every MP cause for concern with the boundary review, told the lords that their days as legislators are numbered, and even managed to find time to engage in a civil war over AV. That’s an awful lot of people who may have cause to oppose it on one ground or another.

Put another way, those simultaneous battles very much limit the electorate who feel the government’s unambiguously on its side, fighting for and delivering what they believe in. This is a problem as all successful governments need their political praetorian guard – activists, journalists and MPs absolutely loyal to it because they believe it’s loyal to their vision of the country. That was never going to be easy in a coalition to start with, when much is already a compromise. The succession of U-turns makes it even harder as those strongly supportive of a policy become wary of being left high and dry in the event of a retreat.

It may well be that David Cameron’s government is keen to learn the lesson that Tony Blair drew from his own first term, where he subsequently believed he didn’t push hard enough. Blair, however, had a massive majority and a benign economic picture and so could largely afford to pick and choose where to push hard and where to delay.

A better contrast might be the first Thatcher government. This is often seen as a radical and reforming government and in some ways it was. However, the big battles it chose in that first term were quite limited – reforming industrial relations and tackling inflation and the budget deficit; the other keynote policy being council house sales. What should be just as apparent is what wasn’t done. At the 1983 election the top rate of tax was 60%; still in public ownership were the utilities, rail, BA, BL, BP, BT, coal and various lesser activities; the education system was largely left as found, as was the NHS. Most of the policies that defined the 1980s (rather than tidied up the 1970s) were second- and third-term.

Of course, to introduce them, first you have to win a second and third term but that’s more likely if you win your big battles in the first, although again, it being a coalition causes a problem with that sort of planning. Even so, the danger of trying to advance on all fronts at the same time is that far too many may fail to reach their objectives, emboldening the opposition where that happens, and overstretching and distracting Number Ten from the prime focus. After all, the opposition can also pick where to attack and small but regular successes can build into a narrative – and returning to the first point, this is a government whose defences are weaker than many.

At the next election, the Conservatives and Lib Dems will want to claim credit for fixing the economy. If they can point to other improvements, from their point of view, fine, but that’s a bonus. All first terms are about establishing trust and fitness to govern and this time, that’s about getting the deficit down while preserving growth and employment, subject to other things not going badly wrong – which is why taking on unnecessary battles is extremely dangerous. With the Summer recess approaching, it might be time to take another look the big strategy.

David Herdson




  • SimonStClare

    400 – Justin, by any chance, were you a farmer before becoming a PPC..?

  • justin

    396 . I am well aware of that.Some Tories were – and are – decent human beings – Lord Shaftesbury comes to mind.

  • History Boy

    A wee treat for Nazi-hating friends of Scotland (i.e. everyone):

    BBC Scotland have a few problems with Hitler and Rudolf Hess

  • Yellow Submarine

    ATL woman on the beeb just now the least worst I have seen. Needs more media training but a rough diamond.

  • Yellow Submarine

    ATL woman on the beeb just now the least worst I have seen. Needs more media training but a rough diamond.

  • minnieroyle

    meanwhile over at twitter someone is spilling the beans on a shed load of superinjunctions, what does S&M mean ?

  • justin

    401. No

  • jsfl

    394. Tim

    Is that those ‘sensible’ Unions and the ‘sensible’ TUC that have been boasting about their strike ‘War Chests’ for the last 6 months at least and baiting the government with them even prior to negotiations beginning?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366694/Unions-fight-cuts-35m-war-chest-pay-wages-striking-workers-bid-unleash-hell.html

  • corporeal

    406. It’s a collaboration between Smarties and M and Ms.

  • another richard

    I’m vaguely curious as to justin’s obsession with enforced labour and to how that relates to public sector employees.

    The only enforcement in the whole process is the enforced taxation that pays them.

    Now if you’re an extreme anarcho-libertarian you could complain about being forced to pay taxes and obey laws and regulations.

    But I don’t see how anything that is suggested relating to public sector employment involves slavery or labour camps.

    Perhaps justin should read ‘One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich’ to learn what forced labour actually is instead of yelling ‘facist’ or ‘evil’ like some overwrought adolescent.

    And with that a good evening to all.

  • http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.com/ Morris Dancer

    As it’s a slow day, here’s an old (relatively) favourite of E. Miliband at PMQs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=172XjRiPThE

  • another richard

    “How extensive was the right to strike under those regimes?”

    What’s with this obsession with striking?

    You’re employed to work. For which you’re paid. You’re not employed to not work whenever you feel like it.

    If you don’t like it then leave.

    If not enough people like then the organisation will have to change things to attract employees.

    If the right to strike is so important shouldn’t taxpayers be given the right to have tax strikes if they’re not happy?

    And now I am going.

  • jsfl

    406. Minnie

    Have a link to the twitter revelations and regarding your question have you heard of Miss Whiplash?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366694/Unions-fight-cuts-35m-war-chest-pay-wages-striking-workers-bid-unleash-hell.html

  • jsfl
  • Lucian Fletcher

    388 – It was just awesome. The first 35 holes were amazing though I didn’t see as much as I should really. Lots of other stuff going on. Saw most of the first round though.

  • tim

    408 – In PB Toryworld, only the Mothers Union is acceptable.

  • Malmesbury

    410. Some years ago, a green activist of my acquaintance was waxing lyrical about the heroic and risky business of protesting against the Newbury Bypass. Apparently the evil F^&*ist Pigs had not put any sugar in the tea they gave her after she was arrested. No, I am not making that up.

    I asked why she didn’t try protesting in Russia about the environmental destruction there….

    “Are you kidding!”, she yelled, “they would kill us!!!!”

  • History Boy

    416. Don’t forget Rugby Union, old chap.

  • corporeal

    417. This is Britain, Tea is serious business.

  • corporeal

    On a side note, Argentina’s moaning about the Falklands again (in an election year, quelle surprise).

  • runnymede

    408. ‘sensible’ trades unions is almost an oxymoron – in the public sector at least

  • jsfl

    412. Absolutely

    If the right to strike is so important shouldn’t taxpayers be given the right to have tax strikes if they’re not happy?

    Lets go on strike about providing Union tax payer funding which ends up in the Labour Party coffers or in TUC strike War Chests.

    Its ironic (perverse even) that the Government are effectively fully subsidising these strikes as well as keeping the Labour Party afloat?

    Matthew Sinclair: How trade unions were funded by the taxpayer to the tune of more than £85 million last year

    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2010/09/trade-union-funding.html

  • Tim B

    corporeal @398:

    “Vegas thinks it’s 78% Rory wins, 28% it’s not Rory”

    Eh?

     

    Vegas percentages never add up to 100!

  • Slackbladder

    406: I have to admit Tarmacing is a new one on me…

  • Charles

    400

    I’m too lazy to dig out my research paper on the economic structure of interwar Italy. So I’ll rely on wikipedia (with all the caveats. Extracted from article on Corporatism / Fascist Corporatism)

    “Italian Fascism involved a corporatist political system in which economy was collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials by formal mechanisms at the national level.”

    In this case the formal mechanisms used the unions as a proxy for the ‘workers’.

    399. Nazism was a distinct political creed from Fascism – on economics it was more left wing, but ultimately (re: banning the unions) it simply wanted to destroy all other power centres to preserve its own position. (Wikipedia: “Fascism”, cited below)

    “Other fascist regimes were indifferent or hostile to corporatism. The Nazis initially attempted to form a corporatist economic system like that of Fascist Italy … However, the Nazis later came to view corporatism as detrimental to Germany and institutionalizing and legitimizing social differences within the German nation. Instead, the Nazis began to promote economic organisation that emphasized the biological unity of the German national community.”

    Of course if the national community is one entity, then unions are by definition a divisive force.

    I don’t know Iberian history as well, so can’t comment on the,

  • jsfl

    416. Oh Tim

    Even for you that’s a bit weak. What’s up didn’t you have a way of rebutting that it has been the Unions who have been primarily involved in pre-emptive strikes….?

  • minnieroyle

    424,indeed, i had to look it up on urban dictionary

  • fitalass

    Twitter

    Andrew_ComRes Andrew Hawkins
    ComRes for IoS/S Mirror: Con & Lab on level pegging at 37%, LDs on 11% http://ht.ly/5kWSA
    3 minutes ago Favorite Retwee

  • fitalass

    Oops, this tweet is one I have read and understood, so much so I think it might be of interest to the readers of PB.com!!!!!

  • http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.com/ Morris Dancer

    428, how does the 15% for Others stack up with other polls?

    I suspect Labour are up a bit, but Con and Lib Dem look reasonable.

  • jsfl

    Conhome reporting Comres Poll:

    Con 37 (-1)
    Lab 37 (-2)
    LD 11 (NC)
    Others 15 (+3)

    Miliband apporval ratings -27 (-10)

    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/leftwatch/2011/06/the-sunday-papers-bring-new-poll-headaches-for-ed-miliband-as-his-ratings-hit-a-new-low.html

  • Slackbladder

    428: Thats an online poll as well.

  • Slackbladder

    From UK polling report:
    ComRes also have some interesting follow up questions (though as ever, they are all asked as agree/disagree!). On leader ratings there is a sharp drop for Ed Miliband since last month. In May 22% agreed he was turning out to be a good leader, 39% disagreed (a net rating of minus 17), now only 18% agree he is a good leader, with 45% disagreeing. As with the weekly YouGov/Sunday Times ratings, public opinion seems to be firming against Miliband. 17% of Labour voters agreed with the statement that the Labour party were unelectable with Miliband as leader.

  • Exeunt Omnes

    jsfl @431

    Oh Dear. So the ambush in the HOC did him no good.

    Vive La Coalition.

  • Slackbladder

    And one for tim, from UKPR:

    ComRes also asked if people thought the NHS would be safer under Labour than the coalition – surprisingly given that Labour normally lead on the NHS, only 34% agreed with 37% disagreeing.

  • jsfl

    430. Morris

    It sounds like its ‘A Plague On All Your Houses’ reaction to all the negative media coverage.

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    jsfl @431:

    Ed Miliband’s aides may want to stop their boss from catching sight of the Sunday Mirror or Independent on Sunday tomorrow, for they contain depressing news for him.

    The latest ComRes opinion poll commissioned for the two papers shows that his ratings are sinking – primarily because those who were giving him the benefit of the doubt by previously saying they didn’t know whether he was turning out to be a good Labour leader are turning against him, the more they see of him.

    In December last year, 17% of the public agreed he was turning out to be a good leader, 32% disagreed and 50% said they didn’t know.

    Six months later and 18% say he is a good leader, but the “don’t knows” have reduced by 13 percentage points to 37% and – guess what? – the number of those disagreeing has increased by 13 percentage points to 45%.

    The full results over recent months are in the table below and, significantly, whilst those agreeing has fluctuated a little, you will see that the number of people disagreeing that he is turning out to be a good leader has risen incrementally over time.

    Picture 10

    Even among Labour voters, only 41% agree with the statement, with 25% disagreeing and 34% saying they don’t know.

    As to whether “The Labour Party is unelectable as the party of government as long as Ed Miliband is its leader”, 33% of the general public agree, 28% disagree and 39% do not know. Among Labour voters alone, 17% agree with the statement (52% disagree).

    Change figures are a comparison with the equivalent mid-May ComRes poll. ComRes interviewed 2,008 people online on Wednesday and Thursday.

     

  • Slackbladder

    434: Thats probably because most people have already decided that ed is an opportunistic little s**t

  • jsfl

    Comres Leader ratings

    Cameron -7 (-3)
    Clegg -37 (-2)
    Miliband -27 (-10)

  • fitalass

    twitter

    vincentmoss Vincent Moss
    Ed Balls writing exclusively in Sunday Mirror tomorrow over pensions revolt/strike crisis facing Govt.

    Oh this should be good! Hope he apologies for Labour’s stewardship of both private and public sector pension provision while they were in Office!

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    jsfl @436:

    It sounds like its ‘A Plague On All Your Houses’ reaction to all the negative media coverage.

     

    Labour are down two points and RedBlueTonyEd is becoming progressively more disliked/not a credible leader – is he dragging Labour’s score down?

  • http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.com/ Morris Dancer

    440, will his writing include an apology for failure to pay rent?

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    MustBeRead MustBeRead
    For the Sunday @Telegraph, @TimMontgomerie lays bare the tensions at the heart of No. 10 telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/…

  • SimonStClare

    441 – A cynic was claim cancer shroud waving and abusing charities, does not sit well with the voters?

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato
  • Colin

    Ed Balls writing exclusively in Sunday Mirror tomorrow over pensions revolt/strike crisis facing Govt.

    I presume the rest of the shadow cabinet are on strike?

  • fitalass

    Slackbladder @438

    Genuinely think the drip drip of articles in Daily Mail etc with regard Miliband brothers rivalry isn’t helping. Did you catch the latest instalment today in the Mail. Ouch.

  • jsfl

    Little Ed is vulnerable to big bro

    Miliband Snr is considered a better prospect for Labour leader by 27%-17% (57% dont know)

    Miliband Jnr beat Big Ed and his Missus though

    Balls loses 40% to 10% (don’t know 50%)
    Copper loses 37% to 7% (don’t know 57%)

    Clegg better option for Libdems than any other 34% – 25% (40% don’t know)

  • Old King Cole

    I sometimes wonder if there’s a confusion among my left wing fruends between feudalists and fascists when describing part at least of the Tory Party. A confusion to which I admit being party.
    Fascism seems to mean all sorts of things to all sorts of people.
    Feudalism is quite simple, and exemplified by a hymn which, back in the 40′s one of my aunts loved, and which our vicare wouldn’t let us sing.
    “The rich man in his castle/The poor mn at the gate/ God made them high a=or lowly/And ordered their estate.

  • http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.com/ Morris Dancer

    448, assuming E. Miliband doesn’t voluntarily leave, D. Miliband requires a significant advantage to actually take action (assuming he’s want to).

    There’s always a risk with changing leader. Another coronation, especially from one brother to another, would look weird, and we’ve seen how odd the electoral system is for the Labour leadership.

    There’s the additional risk that, whilst D. Miliband is better than his brother, he might be rubbish.

    I think Red Ed will survive to 2015.

  • jsfl

    441. Plato

    Only perhaps if his brother took over and then I suspect not by much and anyway I doubt that the major unions would touch Miliband Snr with his New Labour credentials.

  • John F

    435

    ‘ComRes also asked if people thought the NHS would be safer under Labour than the coalition – surprisingly given that Labour normally lead on the NHS, only 34% agreed with 37% disagreeing.’

    Not surprised after the scandal at mid Staffs NHS and the attempt by Labour to cover up.

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    SimonStClare @444:

    A cynic was claim cancer shroud waving and abusing charities, does not sit well with the voters?

     

    Well the Labour leader is certainly perfecting his credentials as Son of Brown in the popularity stakes.

    Still, I’m sure the House elves will be along shortly and try to talk about how crap Lansely is, Osborne’s plan to undermine everyone and he’s crap as well, that Cameron doesn’t do detail and is a shallow crap PR man, Liam Fox’s phone bill who wants everyone else’s job, Nadine and homoeopathy, MMR, why Gove is crap, [insert name of every person you can think of]…

  • Exeunt Omnes

    fitalass @447

    The stuff about Miliband is nothing by comparison to the sh*te poured over Cameron and Clegg by the Daily Rant.

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    fitalass @447:

    Did you catch the latest instalment today in the Mail.

     

    Was that the one about their mother?

  • jsfl

    450. Morris D

    I agree, I really don’t think the big Unions with their Brownite connections would consider the Banana boy for a second or else he’d have to do a deal that would compromise him so badly he’d lose any advantage he had. Otherwise I don’t think he can raise enough support to be able to ignore the unions view and still take on the Leadership.

    Labour are stuck with little Ed….

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    Morris Dancer @450:

    from one brother to another, would look weird

     

    Given how many voters and TV presenters confuse the two of them – perhaps a straight swap wouldn’t be noticed by that many at all ;)

  • http://twitter.com/PlatoSays Plato

    Crisis? What Crisis?

    RT @IndyOnSunday: TOMORROW’S FRONT PAGE: EXCLUSIVE: No regrets. No crisis. Ed Miliband hits back http://twitpic.com/5dep0c

  • John F

    450

    Fortunately Labour don’t get rid of hopeless leaders.

  • http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.com/ Morris Dancer

    457, Miss Plato, they’d only confuse David with Ed then :P

  • MODERATOR

    new thread on Comres

  • Richard 111

    348. My recollection of the mid / late 60s was that very, very few people heard / knew of / were interested in PMQs. Wikipedia says they only became rowdy affairs during the Wilson / Heath period. PMQ only became a theatrical specticle with the advent of televising Parliament.

  • jsfl

    458 Qu’est-ce que c’est?

    Le Miliband dit ‘Non, Je ne regrette rien’

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFRuLFR91e4

  • fitalass

    Plato @455

    Yep, the Mail article was a no holds barred hatchet job on the Miliband wives today. And that is not good.

  • Curious

    It does seem a bit curious, does it not, that the profile that Justin has chosen for himself corresponds in grand measure to that of the recent unlamented prime minister, Mr A. Blair?